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Offline mcwho

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Auxilary Membership Validation
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:21:19 pm »
I am a vietnam veteran and a life post member.  I have been told that the ladies Auxialary membership in my post is available for any woman who has a pulse.  One woman told me that she lied and said that she was a sister of a woman who qualified.  Another woman who is a Ladies Aux member told me that at one Ladies Aux meeting, a new member who had insufficient proof or relationship was voted into membership anyway.

I believe that the post should be for qualified Veterans first, auxiliarues second.  Its this problem rampant within the VFW auxiliaries nationwide.

Is there anything that can be done ?

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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 07:55:31 pm »
The problem of verifying membership eligibility exists within Posts, Mens and Ladies Auxiliaries when documentation is not demanded and when Quartermasters and Treasurers lie and fail in their duties.
The Ladies Auxiliary have their own Constitution and like VFW Post's, have a system/procedure to challenge questionable membership eligibility.
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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 08:58:54 pm »
The Ladies Auxiliary By-Laws require that they actually see the papers that verify that the veteran they are using for qualification is qualified to be a member of the VFW.  But if the veteran is a paid and in good standing of the post then that is enough to qualify.  Our Post Ladies Auxiliary Treasurer will not accept an application without seeing the proof except when I verify that the one they are trying to join on as reference is in fact a member of the post.  Accepting the fact of the veteran already being a member is a recent change, prior to the change all Ladies Auxiliary applicants had to show her the qualifying paperwork.  I do understand, though, that not all are as diligent in their duties.  I have also learned that many Mens Aux accept anyone that ever served themselves but are not qualified for the VFW.  Gotta keep customers coming into those bars.
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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 02:26:06 am »
Men Aux. So you're saying a non veteran can join?

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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2012, 07:30:59 am »
From this years By Laws;
Sec. 1302—Eligibility. Membership in the Mens Auxiliary to the Veterans of Foreign Wars shall be limited to husbands, widowers, fathers, grandfathers, sons, grandsons, brothers and half brothers who attained that status prior to age sixteen (16) of persons who were or are eligible for membership in the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States. Members must not be less than sixteen (16) years old.
Persons eligible for membership in the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States shall not be eligible for membership in the Mens Auxiliary.
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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 12:57:05 am »
Richard was a Marine but not in foreign war. So he would be allowed AUX Membership right?

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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 08:31:21 am »
BigBooper,
    The answer is NO.  See Chris comment about what makes one eligible for the Men's Auxiliary.  He must have a father, brother, grandfather, son, mother, sister, grandmother, wife or daughter that is eligible for membership in the VFW and submit proof of their eligibility.  Just because he served does not make him eligible.  I do feel though that there are a lot of posts/mens auxiliary that are allowing veterans like your Richard to join.
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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 03:01:46 pm »
Richard most likely will meet the criteria to joining the American Legion as a Post Member. 
But they too have service dates of eligibility.
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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2014, 01:22:10 am »
the criteria for belonging to the Men's Aux. are as follows( Membership in the Mens Auxiliary to the Veterans of Foreign Wars shall be limited to husbands, widowers, fathers, grandfathers, sons, grandsons, brothers and half brothers)...what about Step son's and step fathers, these are as relative as a half brother..how specific is this rule and to how far is the enforcement...

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Re: Auxilary Membership Validation
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 03:01:37 pm »
I think the rules on steps would be that same as the Ladies.  Depends on whether lived together as part of a family.
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