Fact 1; National VFW Does Not Recognize Social / Associate Members. Only Qualified Members accepted By By Laws and its Authorized Ladies and Mens Auxiliaries.
Just so we're all on the same boat here, YOU believe every post across the nation who has a canteen/home/whatever they call it, associations that allow ANYONE who does not qualify under the National VFW membership guidelines, are breaking the rules, and should be shut down.
This is what you are saying, correct?
I just find it impossible that this is true, considering how many posts I've visited, and how many social members there are , and how the social members keep the posts afloat financially.
Fact 2; National only gives enough regulations to keep the Post assets under VFW Local Control With certain limitations\. Aside from that, they are not in the 'Bar' business.
They call it fundraising I believe, not a bar business.
Fact 3; You have not shared your Post Regs so we can see how they are set up. This would be highly relevant in this case.
They have been requested, and all requests have been denied by State...ooops Department Qtrmstr.
Fact 4; You are no longer in that Post. (By your account) Except by your say, we have nothing tangible to work with.
After being told/ordered and wished 3 times, to leave because your not welcome anymore, for no reason, I had to transfer. Once you transfer, you have no appeal rights to action taken by previous post. From Dept Qtrmstr.
Did you read my last posting? I was clear that the Association answers to the Post. Apparently, the Post Commander was also running the Home Association which would be inappropriate. (Or has enough influence)
Exactly, old commander moved to Distrcit Adjutant, and SR vice became commander. His first order was to kick me out with no due process, in front of a canteen full of people. Home Association management is exactly the same as post management, with NO separation in leadership or authority.
So, we only have the National By Laws to work with, and by default of those By Laws, they will over ride any other level. To include Post and Canteen Rules.
See, now your thinking. The Home Association at a post CAN NOT violate the National by-laws or the Post by-laws, in respect to ACTIVE VFW Lifetime Members, and their certain rights and privileges, WITHOUT due process.
Question, Why did you not document the entire history of the events and bring your case up under Post Good of the Order as your Right as a Member.
Was kicked out for no reason, with witnesses testimony, for no reason. Walked in one day, after no patronizing the post for over 6 months. Sat down, and was told to leave immediately, do not ever come back, you are no longer welcome here anymore. We wish you would just transfer to another post.
Went to the district meeting that following wednesday night, brought up the illegal termination at the meeting, under good of the order, and the Commander stood up and slammed me, makig up lie after lie in front; of 50+ commanders, SR, JR, and even other district commanders in attendance. The assault went on for about 5 minutes, with known lie after lie being told by him. The distrcit commander did nothing to stop the assault and let it continue. It was horrific, the lies that were told about me. It's all on tape. The Adjutant voice records every meeting. I transferred about 2 weeks later, and about a month after that, I received a letter telling me my Social membership was terminated.
Even under Suspension, they do not have the right to prevent your attendance in a Post meeting. .
No, but when your told in the letter, you are not allowed on the property, not allowed to visit the canteen area, not allowed to play pool, horseshoes, or even be on the property anymore and you are only allowed to be there on the last Thursday of every month, only for meetings, and you can not use the front door. You must use the side door, that no-one ever uses, and it reamains locked. They wanted me to stand out in the rain, until the meeting began, and only then would they open the door for me. I was not allowed to socialize with anyone there anymore.
Tell me, would you stay at the post as a member, or would you transfer like ordered?
You probably had time in the initial stages to do something with it. Far easier to document while in progress as opposed to backwards engineer the files. A railroad attempt was made on me at District Level before and I well armed myself with the Facts, and the By Laws, and presented my case in a District Meeting. I won my case and had great success in that District afterwards.(This happened At District Level)
After his attack that night, even the District commander won't talk to me, nor would he return calls or letters requesting guidance.