Fiduciary Responsibilty

[dnkldorf]

Has anyone seen this slide show?

http://benspera.com/vfwdept/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Fiduciary-Responsibilities.pdf

Curious whether you agree with it, or not.

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[DoggyDaddy]

I have not seen this before.

Where did it come from, what is its origin???

Looks like training slides...

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[Chris Weber 5468]

I like this presentation very much. Definitely a training tool. It will be incorporated in the District 12 MO School of Instruction. Very nice find.

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[dnkldorf]

As far as I can tell, it was uploaded by some named Benjamin Spera, who maintains the PA VFW web site.

I found it, while researching my legal case against the VFW.

I believe this is an actual training slide show authorized by the state, and used as a training guide for officers.

The important things to take into consideration, is that the POST and it's OFFICERS are liable for anything that happens at the Canteen, and they can not shift liability to any HOME ASSOCIATION, like they choose to do. The POST controls, and is liable for anything that happens, There is no shield of protection they try to use.

Also, notice how many times in the presentation they specifically mention that PERSONAL attitudes MUST be not be tolerated.

I tried contacting Ben Spera about this, both by email and voice. He has not returned any calls or emails, and I can not find this on the State VFW site anywhere now.

So take it for what it's worth. The guy won't return my calls, nor will the State return my calls asking for authenticity.

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[Chris Weber 5468]

The important things to take into consideration, is that the POST and it's OFFICERS are liable for anything that happens at the Canteen, and they can not shift liability to any HOME ASSOCIATION, like they choose to do. The POST controls, and is liable for anything that happens, There is no shield of protection they try to use.

This is the importance of properly being incorporated with your home State Attorney General. Also keeping your VFW Incorporation Papers on file and signed off by National.
The presentation itself keeps within the provisions of statements in the Commanders Manual and the Quartermasters Manual. (Might be just a little embellished) The do provide proper readings of the mention of the By Laws Control of Units.
Not having the verification of the source is a non issue to me. The total message addresses good leadership and responsibility of what should be brought to light.
To all considering using it; I would say;
USE IT, BETTER FOR ALL TO REALIZE THE FULL RAMIFICATIONS OF LEADERSHIP

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[DoggyDaddy]

USE IT, BETTER FOR ALL TO REALIZE THE FULL RAMIFICATIONS OF LEADERSHIP

But also best to teach officers and members the results and ramifications of poor and the lack of leadership. This Forum has divulged and discussed a lot of it.

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[dnkldorf]

But also best to teach officers and members the results and ramifications of poor and the lack of leadership.

 That's a tough sell. Teaching an old dog a new trick.

I don't mean this in a bad way, it just sums things up nicely.

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[USAFAirdale]

But also best to teach officers and members the results and ramifications of poor and the lack of leadership.

 That's a tough sell. Teaching an old dog a new trick.

I don't mean this in a bad way, it just sums things up nicely.

Personally, I'm getting a little tired of "When I was....."  or "It didn't use to be that way"

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[jtraner]

This will be used in my School of Instruction for my District. 

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[Chris Weber 5468]

With IRS' seeming to prey upon Not For Profit organizations, it would be wise to fully document all of your Posts activities and operate within the By Laws. Once one becomes an Officer, that places them beyond being a Volunteers, for the responsibility that comes with the position is binding. This knowledge leads to the importance of the presentation pointed out in this thread.
It might be a rude awakening to those used to the 'Good Old Days' and time goes on. This old mentality must stop and Posts must step up to this new age and cover their bases. This presentation reflects this.

But also best to teach officers and members the results and ramifications of poor and the lack of leadership.

 That's a tough sell. Teaching an old dog a new trick.

I don't mean this in a bad way, it just sums things up nicely.

It IS a tough sell. Unfortunately, a lot of Old Dogs might not survive in todays world.

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[dnkldorf]

This will be used in my School of Instruction for my District.

Again, I want to emphasize that I do not know the authenticity to this. I did some basic research into the possible author(s) and website origin. What I found may not be a authorized version, may not be a final draft, and could just be a work in progress kinda thing.

I would suggest that you do some diligence, and get authorization to duplicate it, or reproduce it in any way.

IT MAY BE WRONG. I don't know for sure.

IMO.

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[dnkldorf]

Bump to keep current.

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[marlinnotafish]

Fiduciary duties are spelled out in your State law.  A long time ago it seems I posted that besides knowing the VFW Constitution and By-laws inside out you also have to know state law as it pertains to corporations, and in some, if not all, states have different requirements for tax exempt (non-profit) corporations and for profit corporations.

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[Chris Weber 5468]

A Prime example of Fiduciary Irresponsibility;

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120817/NEWS01/120819793/former-vfw-post-commander-arrested

Do not know the details as these will come out in the Case, but this is why the By Laws, Manual of Procedures, the Commanders manuals, and Quartermaster Manuals are in place. Also, where were the Quartermaster and the Trustees in this. It should not be just the Commander up on this.

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