Life Member gets the boot and possibly slandered at District meeting

[marlinnotafish]

There is something that has not been brought out yet.  Is this canteen another IRC 507 (social club) home association in Pennsylvania or some other state where anyone can join?  I ask because it sounds like it is.  "Anyone can get what they call a social membership. For me, a LifeTime Member, you're social membership is considered a privelage at no cost to you, under the VFW manuals rights of members."

In my 41 years of service to veterans I have never heard of a "VFW manuals rights of members" except for when I lived in PA many, many eons ago.

If so, it is nothing different than Archie Bunker going down to Kelsey's for a beer and calling his son-in-law a Commie, pinko faggot meathead.  Why would the VFW District or State care what goes on in a home association?

Just curious.

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[dnkldorf]

There is something that has not been brought out yet.  Is this canteen another IRC 507 (social club) home association in Pennsylvania or some other state where anyone can join?  I ask because it sounds like it is.  "Anyone can get what they call a social membership. For me, a LifeTime Member, you're social membership is considered a privelage at no cost to you, under the VFW manuals rights of members."

I really have no clue what a IRC 507 is, so I can not comment on this.

In my 41 years of service to veterans I have never heard of a "VFW manuals rights of members" except for when I lived in PA many, many eons ago.

I believe I should of added a comma. What I meant to say, is "The VFW MOP and By-laws", under SEC 110-Rights of members, and SEC 105, Members in Good Standing.
The privilege of patronizing the canteen at a post, joining a pool or horseshoe league, renting of the hall or pavilions, are all privileges given to you, when you join or transfer to a VFW post.
These privileges are given to VFW members, and not social members. Social members must pay yearly dues for this privilege.

Under SEC 907- Penalties, (3), Suspension of certain rights and privileges of membership for a specified period of time.
As a Member in Good Standing, No-one can take away certain rights and privileges, without due process.

If so, it is nothing different than Archie Bunker going down to Kelsey's for a beer and calling his son-in-law a Commie, pinko faggot meathead.  Why would the VFW District or State care what goes on in a home association?
Just curious.

Not an apple to apple comparison. Read the thread I started on Fiduciary Responsibilities.
An executive officer for the VFW, at any level, is required to act upon the best interest of the organization, and must maintain a high level of professionalism.
It is unbecoming of an officer, to lie and knowingly spread false rumors about another member in good standing.

If Archie was a social member, and Jughead was a social member, then I agree with you.

But this vendetta was against a LifeTime member, who hasn't been around for a long time.

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[dnkldorf]

I find it hard to believe that there is no record/transcript of the court as how would or could someone contest the findings or court procedure.  Maybe there was a tape/disc recorder or video recorder you're not aware of.

That may be. Now that you mention this, there may be a video recording, or tape that runs whenever a hearing is in process.
That's a really good thought to follow up on, and I will look into it.

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[USAFAirdale]

There is something that has not been brought out yet.  Is this canteen another IRC 507 (social club) home association in Pennsylvania or some other state where anyone can join?   

 Why would the VFW District or State care what goes on in a home association?

I think we need to make one thing PERFECTLY clear. ---->>> The VFW DOES NOT permit social (non qualified, non-veteran) memberships.  Doing so is grounds for immediate (and possibly permanent) revocation of a Post charter to include the possibility of forfeiture of all Post assets as well.

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[dnkldorf]

I think we need to make one thing PERFECTLY clear. ---->>> The VFW DOES NOT permit social (non qualified, non-veteran) memberships.  Doing so is grounds for immediate (and possibly permanent) revocation of a Post charter to include the possibility of forfeiture of all Post assets as well.

Then what do you call it?

What do you call a membership, that allows the public to patronize the canteen, who are NOT Veterans of Foreign Wars?

The social members keep a lot of posts open. The are the main supply of funds, that get distributed to veterans, by the Posts.

Without them, many posts would fold.

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[DoggyDaddy]

Some VFW choose do not operate their canteens under the VFW Non-profit status and elect to choose to purchase a different liquor license that allows public patronage.

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[dnkldorf]

No audio recording or video recording of the hearing. You had to provide your own equipment or court reporter.

I stopped by the court this morning.

Bummer..

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[dnkldorf]

Please note that I changed the title of thread and added the word "possibly", to more accurately describe this thread, without intentionally making false accusations.

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